Advice for Frederic: dreaming a life without fear, aging, and being different from others

Applying the same question to Frederic, the Wonders note he admires the unicorn in his daughter and the determination and drive in his wife, but judges himself for being different: he wants to play, yet treats life as a responsibility in which he must create something.

They tell him to ask what his life would mean if he simply were not afraid, and to follow the breadcrumbs - he will notice many fears he did not know he had because they are a normal part of everyday life.

Better still, he should fantasize and dream about a life lived without fear, and all three of them should do so, because there is far more the three of them could do in this lifetime.

He is encouraged to talk together as a family for emotional support, checking in with each other and accepting that fear is still present.

Returning to the psychology of aging, they say he need not look for specifics: following the direction of dreaming a life without fear will bring him up against his own psychologies of aging, all of which are based on fear, and he can then ask what would happen if he removed this or that psychology and lived differently.

If he lets himself take the general direction in and live it, he will change the aging factor in his body without even realizing it - not living thousands of years, but perhaps a hundred plus in a strong, capable body, without fear of dying.

They caution him not to get caught up exploring the fear of dying itself but to start with dreaming about a life without fear, with no 'have to' or goal attached, because opportunities and choices that could not appear while he lived in fear will begin to show up, and he will then face a choice about how he wants to live.

Frederic mentions choosing his work by the people rather than the job, which they endorse.

Rene interjects advice to bring an IT person along in any new work - technical ability, not AI - and the Wonders repeat that he should dream of an existence without fear and then build his AI model.

Frederic remarks that he has less fear and more freedom while everyone around him goes the other way; the Wonders compare it to driving down a road thinking you are like everyone else, then noticing every other car is going the opposite direction, and say it is only through observing outside ourselves that we find what we are.

Very few people think as he does, and he now allows himself to appreciate himself more than ever, which is a gift; most people are too afraid even to dream of a life without fear, because a life without fear is so frightening that they prefer to keep some fear in order to feel comfortable.

Finally, the Wonders mention recordings they have completed on this subject that Maggie can point him to, and close by telling him, since his mind is empty, to stay empty - the trouble begins when one tries to fill it.