
Frederic observes that he could examine issues of ego and personality forever without ever getting out.
The Wonders agree that this is a never-ending circle of the mind judging the mind judging the mind's issue, but say it is beneficial to acknowledge its presence without puzzling over why, and then simply to be and observe whether that presence is all there is or whether there is more.
Frederic notes the mind seems to have no choice in this, though it does; the Wonders reply that the mind is very good at building a maze and that it is for him to decide how to navigate it, or to step outside it completely.