
Frederic reports having spent time on the difference between judgment and love, concluding that removing judgment amounts to including more, even the parts of himself he dislikes, and then asks whether humanity would be better off without thinking.
The Wonders answer no: thinking plays an important role, allowing humans to develop circumstances that propel them forward, sometimes through fear, judgment and guilt and other times through love.
To ask whether humanity would be better without thinking is to ask whether it would be better without a mind, and the mind is what allows humans to navigate and survive third dimensional reality.
The difficulty is that minds are fearful of separation and survival from the moment of creation and build a reactionary muscle to protect themselves, which grows more reactionary and fearful with time; eventually people learn that fear is not all it is made out to be and that they can survive, but most abdicate the self-responsibility to command the mind, at which point the mind takes over and they spend 60 to 100 years being afraid and reacting to fear while surviving in spite of it.
The alternative is to command the mind and show it that fear is an illusion, so that its judgment - which has great benefit - is used in a positive, loving way with the support and guidance of the self.
Then thinking can create the ability to navigate interdimensional reality, expressions of love and appreciation, expansion, and governments and a world that explore the universe lovingly rather than defensively.
The mind, they conclude, is a very important tool but only a tool, and most of humanity has forgotten this; humans' stubbornness has let them survive in spite of themselves but has also created the illusion that the mind is all there is.

Frederic asks whether the Wonders would describe themselves as commanding the universe.
They reply that his mind hears commanding as an action; they are not commanding the universe but are in command of all things, in the sense that all things are within them.
Asked whether this parallels being in command of one's own mind, which would still leave the mind its free will and free choice, they agree, adding that when one is in command of the mind, the mind reflects the self - so the key is to encompass the mind while encouraging it to reflect him.
At present his mind holds the illusion that it is the sole proprietor and general of his physicality, which is useful physically but incomplete since he is not only a physical being.
The mind must therefore be encouraged to expand enough to recognize this while still knowing itself as a tool created to navigate third dimensional reality; once it does, it begins to realize there is more to existence than what it perceives as third dimensional reality and can become a tool for moving throughout the universe.
Frederic mentions being intrigued by the idea of 'motionless flow', which currently means nothing to him; the Wonders say he would be surprised, and note that while the mind is a great tool for manifesting and doing, exploring without doing is more a construct of the self, and at this stage his mind will limit things to doing and refuse to go further.

Frederic asks whether he is still playing with energy in his seemingly random interactions with computers.
The Wonders confirm it, saying he perceives a certain illusion around computers, loves playing with and manifesting it, and most of all loves doing nothing and enjoying it, which gives him a sense of awareness, power and beingness - and that translating this into other areas of his life will make everything easy.
He observes that including more has reduced conflict, but that some parts of him remain very stubborn, which he can at least appreciate for now.
The Wonders ask what underlying psychology those stubborn parts are afraid of exploring; he identifies pride, a fear of disappearing and a sense of not being good enough, which they call a good place to start.
Frederic notes that after exploring on the non-physical level in recent days he ended up with a cold, as usual.
The Wonders say this is the mind's way of reminding him he is physical, and that he should not be afraid of going beyond - the mind is, and it will create all kinds of visualizations and manifestations reflecting that fear, but he should go for it anyway and not be distracted, since his cold is not really a cold but a distraction.
When he says he also needs rest, they point out that lying down with his eyes closed would let him explore further.

Frederic proposes that experiencing existence requires awareness - one could do it without thinking but not without awareness - and admits he cannot define awareness.
The Wonders offer a method: close the eyes and let the mind go; it will start thinking about activities, how-tos and situations, so let it think, and eventually there will be a momentary point of not thinking, at which the mind gets scared and returns to thinking.
Let it go again, and each time it reaches that point it goes a little deeper, further and broader, until on coming out of that meditation or quietude an awareness presents itself.
Frederic asks whether the return to thinking is due to fear, and describes his impression that meditating on the space between thoughts harmonizes the thought.
As the session ends the Wonders tell him to explore this and to pose his question before relaxing or going to sleep, saying he will be surprised what he receives.
In the post-session reflection the channel describes seeing Frederic in REM sleep, the eye movements repeatedly stopping for longer and longer intervals of complete silence with no thinking and nothing happening in the body, in which something could almost be seen but not grasped at first, becoming more solid each time until the mind could grasp that awareness and put it into a form it understood.